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Henk
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Hi everybody,
Time for an update on the shroom therapy, wich,
by now, I should call the non-shroom therapy.
I have been chronic for over 6
years, started shrooming in july 2001, weekly at
first, then bi-weekly.
And from november on,
I tried to use the feeling in my head to judge
wether it was time for a redose.
On jan 12th I had my last dose!! And I'm still up
and running. I still get "attacks" but not much
pain, short in duration and very doable compared
to how it was before! So despite almost 4 months
without shrooms, there still seems to be a strong
effect.
I know this is not
scientific, something else might have caused the
change, but since I still get those "eroded
attacks" that started when I started the therapy,
it's my believe that it's the shrooms.
My last dose was a heavy one. I took 2
grams of my home grown stuff, but it was potent
enough to get vivid halucinations at first,
ending up with the feeling that my heart stopped
beating. Had to pull myself together a couple of
times: "If I can worry about my heart beating or
not, it *must* be beating". This trip was not
fun, guess it was my first bad trip. But I
survived, and it seems to have a long lasting
effect on CH.
Anyway,
I'm doing fine, wanted to let you know, as like
many others, I tend to leave the CH sites now I'm
doing fine.
PFDAN's to all of
you,
and special thanks to flash
and pinky!
Henk
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
« Reply #1 on: May
4th, 2002, 4:48am |
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Great, Henk.
I
never dosed that heavily but my first (last year)
was a doozy too.
I felt the
effects for several months as well, from february
till the end of may. Then everything went away,
so I knew the episode was over.
This year I dosed too late
(and possibly too little) and I am stuck with
rests of attacks. But not too much to live with.
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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Thanks for the update Henk. I too
have been shrooming since July, and I MIGHT be
chronic (more on that later).
Need to ask Flash and Pink about this, but there
seems to be some evidence that higher doses cause
the remission to last longer.
I first tried the shrooms in early
July 2001 after using the water X 3 treatment to
break up the cycle. I had been having one or two
kip 7's every day, but had it puished back to a
kip 5 or 6 every other day, then every third day.
My first dose of shrooms was half a gram or so of
some relatively old, weak stuff (trip level one)
repeateed five days later, and it knocked out the
beast for two months.
The
beast returned, and I knocked him back again with
the same low-dose taken-twice treatment in early
September. Same thing again in early November,
for another two month remission.
Then I got a new batch of shrooms and
repeated the treatment in early January when the
beast retuned with three kip 6's in one night
(another first for me). But this new batch
was fresh (by which I mean dried, but not very
old) and strong, and I got real high, - not
unpleasently, but much higher than I'd planned.
I've been in remission ever since.
I generally have a tapering-off
period-- shrooms kill the heavy attack, but leave
a few mild ones and some heavy shadows, which
gradually fade over a week or two, and I start
getting shadows, followed by mild attacks, for a
week or two before the beast decides to kick my
butt again.
The beast has
hinted at a return a couple of times since
January, and I twice planned a weekend dosing,
but the warning signs faded by the time the
weekend arrived. Now it's five (whoops, make that
four) months since the last dose, and no real
sign of the beast. Only a mild to moderate shadow
or a scalp tingle when I get real tired or pushed
off my usual sleep schedule.
Now
about being chronic or episodic -- what kind of
idiot wouldn't know which he was. My kind
of idiot, of course. The problem is a lack of
history. I first met the Beast in early April,
2001, and have been shrooming since July. Based
on the info collected by Pink & Flash, shroom
treatments do not postpone cycles for epidoics,
they suppress them, and episodics do not see a
return of the beast until the next
regularly-scheduled visit.
By February of this year, I was thinking that
either: (A.) I am an episodic with very long
cycles, or (B.) I'm a chronic. Since chronics
seem to be more likely to have the
"tapering off and tapering on" effect, than
episodics, I decided I must be chronic.
But now the beast has been away
five months. Is it because of the haevy
dose in January, or have I finally ended a very
long episode? Don't know, and the uncertainty is
irritating to a degree. But not too much.
After all, how can I complain about being pain
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
« Reply #3 on: May
4th, 2002, 10:15am |
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Henk, that is excellent news!
I understand your desire to
put the world of CH as far behind you as you can,
but please drop by every few months if you can
just to let us know how you are doing.
Also, make sure to keep some mushrooms
close at hand. I know the last several months
have been good, but I can pretty much guarantee
that sooner or later you will need to dose again.
Thanks for your update. I have
always found them to be informative.
Congratulations on your victory!
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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4th, 2002, 10:26am |
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collected by Pink & Flash, shroom treatments
do not postpone cycles for epidoics, they
suppress them, and episodics do not see a return
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Actually, I am uncertain whether
this is really what is going on. It is possible
that the psilocybin does more than just repress
an ongoing attack. It may actually normalize or
"reset" the serotonin-regulating mechanism of the
brain for a period of time. This mechanism will
eventually drift out of whack again and another
cycle will start. The start of the next cycle may
be postponed by the psilocybin.
For example, envision an episodic clusterhead who
normally has a cycle of 3 months, followed by a 9
month remission. In a case like this, the cycle
starts at the same time of year, for year after
year.
He takes a preventative
dose of mushrooms every 4 months for a year and
half or so, then forgets about it, and takes
nothing at all for many months. My guess is that
his next cycle would start 9 months after the
last dose of mushrooms, regardless of what time
of year it was.
Not enough data
to KNOW this for sure, but it is plausible.
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
« Reply #5 on: May
4th, 2002, 8:41pm |
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I don't know, but I think the
shroom therapy worked so far for me, I was
already in cycle but dosed, the dose was week so
one and half weeks later I took the rest of what
I had. Which was also week. But I
have been pain free for 2 weeks. And for
this time of year that is unusual. I am now
taking lithium everyday and my source will start
growing again next week. I will dose again
this time more than the last two times. It
sucked staying off meds for 2 weeks but if this
is what helped me then thank you pinky.
Beginning of spring all the way through
summer is the worst time in my life-So I am
hopping this year will be better CAUSE IF I HAVE
TO GO ANOTHER PICNIC DRINKING WATER INSTEAD OF A
BEER I WILL GO INSANE.
THANKS JODI
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
« Reply #6 on: May
4th, 2002, 8:48pm |
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My turn,
Been 2 weeks since
I dosed at the first sign of my cycle (which is
due) and have been PF for that time.
Got hit today, so I'll dose tomorrow
or the next day, should be the END of it
btw...home grown fresh shrooms.
Mast
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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4th, 2002, 10:13pm |
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Ok I'm ready to explore shrooms
but know nothing about types, growing or
procuring them. Would you recommend info
sources? I didn't find the headache support
group shroom site very helpfull ( or I didn't
understand it...always a possibility!)
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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5th, 2002, 1:43am |
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jrt;
Unfortunately some of the links in the "growing"
section of that page are obsolete. I have put
together an information package for those
interested in growing their own, with links to
reliable spore suppliers and to several different
growing guides that explain the growing process
thoroughly. Mastifflvr has posted one of those
links already.
If you (or anyone
else) are interested in doing further reading in
this area, e-mail me and I will send you this
information. It has been of considerable help to
many clusterheads who have gone on to grow their
own.
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Jodi -
Congratulations on successful (apparently, so
far) shrooming.
Also
congratulation are due because you are a winner
of the "find a better name for CH" contest
several weeks ago. Your "Satan's Funny Fucking
Joke" was one of two winners, but I couldn't get
in touch with you. The prize is your choice of an
OUCH membership or a legal copy of Aki's video.
The other winner was maria,
with her S.H.I.T.S. acronym entry, and she chose
to use her prize to sponsor an OUCH membership.
Being scattered, forgetful and generally
disorganized, I finally remembered the other day
I hadn't delivered on the prizes as promised, so
I just yesterday sent the $ for two sponsorships
to President Bob. (That's right, Bob, the check's
in the mail!)
Anyway, if you aren't an OUCH
member, we can fix it so you are one now, or I
can still get you a copy of the video -- sending
an order in Monday, (if I don't forget) since I
want one for me, too.
Please let me let me
know your preference here or by e-mail
(tomd@penn.com) or however.
Who ever thought those evil little illegal
mushrooms would kick Satans Funny Fucking Ass!
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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I will spend the rest of the day
reading...thanks so much for the links and info.
Pinky - I'll research this info
first...then I may not have to take advantage of
your kind offer.
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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10th, 2002, 10:42pm |
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Quick question...do shrooms ever
go bad? I've had a batch for over 3 months
and I'm wondering if they're still good.
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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MOJO-
I've kept
them for that long in college before, and they
were still pretty potent. They were wrapped
in a plastic bag and stuffed in a drawer.
Exposure to light can degrade them, and I
would think heat might cause them to break down a
bit faster.
Our "coaches"
here have recommended that you store them in
honey, which I'll be trying out eventually.
I believe you do this be dumping as much
honey as you can from a honey jar, then stuffing
the jar full of shrooms. Then you replace
what honey you can into the jar, and wipe some
around the lid before replacing it so as to seal
the jar.
I'm thinking the
best benefit to this beyond preservation is that
it has to make them taste better
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I've been eating mine stuffed into dried
apricots.
Hey pinky-I was
wondering how well freezing them might work?
Peace and PFDAN-Rick
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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Freezing werks jist fine
Freeze in a sealed container, preferably
glass. The smaller the jar, the better.
Less air, more shrooms. Put some
"dessicant" in there too. Either some
"dry-z-air" or "damp rid" (don't let it touch the
shrooms) or get those little "do not eat" thingys
that are in vitamin jars.
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Gracias
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Old shrooms?
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Hey MOJO......send 'em to me and
I'll let you know if they're OK....I'm out and
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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on May 11th, 2002,
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Umm... actually, Mast, when you
are storing completely dehydrated mushrooms in
the freezer they are not really "frozen", since
there is no water left in them to freeze. All you
are doing is storing them at a sub-freezing
temperature.
Freezing fresh
mushrooms is a disaster. The cell walls of fungus
will rupture readily as the water crystallizes,
so when they are thawed they are a soggy mess
that will start to decompose shortly.
Rick, honey is only used for storing
freshly picked mushrooms, and even then only for
a short time... a few months at most. If the
mushrooms have been dried to the proper state
(cracker dry) there is no benefit whatsoever to
storing them in honey. And honey has a
significant drawback as well when it comes time
to weighing out a dose. How much of that weight
is honey, and how much is mushroom? And, take it
from one who has tried it, honey makes the taste
WORSE than just eating them straight.
The best thing I have found for
killing the taste is to dice them as finely as
you can, and mix them into a blob of dark
chocolate syrup, the kind you mix into milk to
make chocolate milk. Hershey's or Nestle's or
something similar. Or, toss them into a blender
with some orange juice or cranberry juice.
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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DOH!!!
I left out the most
important part of freezing them...they need to be
dried.
Didn't think about the "honey jar"
post being fresh, then I posted on freezing them.
And I just meant for storage, freezing
works fine.
Man...I thought I was
doing so good too, almost quoting the Guru.
Bummer.
Sorry if I confused anyone.
Mast
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Re: SHROOM UPDATE
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