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Mattso
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Why am I the crummiest shroom farmer
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on: May 9th, 2002, 1:40am
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Let's say that I, uh,
theoretically injected some reputable
psilocybe cubenis spores into a myco environment
bag, then stored the bag away in it's box, and
thought I'd see some therapeutic shrooms develop.
Would any successful shroom farmers have some
insight as to why it would just turn into a bunch
of solid white fungus at the bottom of the bag,
with no shroom development? Can "peeking" at it
too early (2 weeks) or not having it in a warm
enough room cause this sorta failure?
I'm curious about this as I'd like to
theoretically be prepared for my next
expected episode sometime off in the hopefully
distant future.
Thankya
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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someone i know,( wont mention any
names ofcourse.)..messed their bags up too. It
has taken them about 2 months to produce one or
two shrooms LOL. they call them idiot proof but
you cant prove that by me.(.i mean my friend.).
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smiles,
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us...to make the world a brighter
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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man,
I won't even go there....
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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By garsh. it's funny, but this
guy told ME about a guy who did the same thing
except HIS mycobag was as barren as Afghanistan
after a good ol' carpet bombing.....must be an
epi-damn-demic....and this other guy was so
embarassed by his failure to bear fruit from
something that was UNfuckUpable, that he just
kept it to himself....what a loser!!
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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shroom farmers have some insight as to why it
would just turn into a bunch of solid white
fungus at the bottom of the bag, with no shroom
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Congratulations!!!
That's EXACTLY what you want to see,
Mattso. That means the first stage of the the
process has been completed successfully: the
substrate (mushroom "food") has been completely
colonized by the mycelium (fungal equivalent of a
root system), and the "vegetative growth" stage
has been accomplished. Normally that takes about
two weeks or so, depending on temperature, so it
sounds like everything (theoretically speaking)
is proceeding right on schedule.
Now, you must change the environmental conditions
a bit to signal the mycelium that it is time to
switch over to the "reproductive growth" stage of
its life cycle, where it develops fruiting bodies
(mushrooms) in order to spread its spores and
start the cycle all over again.
This is done by exposing the mycelium to light
for several hours a day, and dropping the
temperature to somewhere between 70 and 78
degrees. Any light will do except direct sunlight
falling directly on the bags. It doesn't have to
be very strong light: enough to read by is
sufficient. Anywhere from 1 hour to 16 hours of
light per day is fine. The mushrooms aren't too
fussy about that part.
Somewhere
around two weeks after the bag has been
completely colonized (turned solid white) you
will start to see some small white bumps forming
on the top surface of the mycelium, and maybe a
few on the sides, too, between the substrate and
the walls of the plastic bag. In a matter of days
these bumps will develop a dot in the center that
is a brown or a brick red color, and the bumps
will start to elongate and resemble matchsticks.
These are the immature mushrooms, called "pins".
Once they reach that size, they mature VERY
rapidly... sometimes doubling their mass each
day, until they are recognizable as mushrooms.
The very best time to
harvest them is just as the cap starts to expand
and break away from the stem, but before the cap
opens fully. Once the cap opens all the way the
spores will develop and drop. The spores resemble
a very dark purplish powder... almost black. It
is okay if you wait too long, but the spores tend
to make the inside of the bag look messy, and
mushrooms that have developed spores will taste
more bitter. They still work fine, though.
Please note that this two week time
frame for the "pinning"stage is approximate.
Sometimes the pins will develop less than a week
after complete colonization, sometimes it takes a
month. But they WILL develop, as long as the
mycelium remains free of contaminants, receives
light, and is kept in the correct temperature
range. Amateur mycologists learn the virtue of
patience.
The mature mushrooms
will appear in a series of successive crops,
called "flushes". When the first flush is ready
to harvest, slit the bag as near to the top as
you can manage, then pick all the mushrooms from
the first flush at the same time. Make sure to
wash your hands all the way to the elbows first,
and try not to breathe into the open bag. After
harvesting, use a plant mister to mist a little
bit of water into the open bag (not a lot, just a
squirt or two) then reseal the bag carefully with
tape, making sure there is as much moist air
trapped inside the bag as possible.
In another week or so, another set of
pins will appear, and you will be on your way to
a second flush. Most strains of psilocybe
cubensis will produce at least three flushes,
but I have heard of as many as six from a bag.
Usually the second flush produces both the
biggest specimens and the largest fruits, but
that is not cast in stone.
Bottom
line: You done good! Theoretically speaking, of
course.
pinky
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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« Reply #5 on: May
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Cutting throught the 3rd party
stuff, my cakes sat for about 4 weeks, fully
colonized before they started to fruit. But
once they started, man they produced!
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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And you must keep us informed of
your progress !!
Peter ( 2nd
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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and I (theoretically) have fucked up TWO
mycobags!
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You seem to go out of your way to try to
make me feel like a complete idiot every time I
see you...and you really needn't bother. I
already feel like an idiot most of the time
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Just an update: Sporeworks was
contacted by that poor farmer who had ZERO
results with the myco bags and they are sending
him two new bags and a new spore syringe FREE of
CHARGE (!!!)......how rare is that?
That stupid farmer will certainly
recommend Sporeworks for backing their product,
just like Pinky said they would.....
Shut UP Pink!!!!.........It's my
favorite COLOR........
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Tao is like a bellows.
it's empty,
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Keep cool.
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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Here are some pictures of my
efforts:
http://www.pahlow.net/albums/shrooms/index.html
Note that it took 9 weeks before
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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10th, 2002, 2:12am |
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Ohhh! Doh! Doh! DOH!
White hunks and chunks at the bottom
of the bag are a GOOD thing....
Thanks for all the responses everyone, and Pinky,
major thanks to you for your usual generous
insights/instructions on this subject. Believe
me, I've saved them for critical future
reference.
I know a certain guy
who threw out his myco bags when they grew the
white fungus clumps. This um, guy, is now
picturing the bags sitting at the city dump,
sprouting all kinds of shrooms in the light.
Fortunately for me , I
seem to be at the end of a cycle, so of course I
really actually have nothing to complain
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Re: Why am I the crummiest shroom
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« Reply #11 on: May
11th, 2002, 4:29am |
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Wow Bob P, I thought I had
done well but your pictures are impressive.
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