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Personal History: Male, 42,
CH’s for past 7 yrs or so, had some
early 30’s but not the Kip level they
have been at for the last 7 years.
Cluster
type: episodal, 1 cycle/yr, duration of ea. cycle
approx. 2 months or so, currently in mid cycle
(getting hammered pretty hard), at peak of cycle
can set watch by nightly attacks, AND
unpredictable attacks during day (sometimes
brought on by stress, sometimes nothing at all).
Detox: 70 hrs since last intake of
Imitrex (2 – 25mg), still had feverfew
in system (mentors of BB unaware of impact either
way on this)
Dosed Friday night…2g
plus a little…bone
dry…species unknown…but
potent... went into some level 3’s
(awesome 3 dimensional closed eye), somewhat
intense for the initiated (20 yrs ago) but still
in full control.
Saturday - Day 1 Post
therapy - hungover feeling and definitely an OFF
day, 10:00 had a quick like (literally one
second) electrical charge feeling at my
“sweet spot” (origination
point of my CH’s) and nothing else all
day…..no shadows…..nothing. I
was pretty cooked all day…like stick a
fork in me…I am well done, but at the
same time a peaceful, tranquil feeling.
CH’s millions of miles away.
Day 2
minor shadows in AM….at 3:00 pm had one
rolling on….but it diffused rather
quickly…rest of day minor to meduim
shadows….about 10:30 (after falling
asleep) I woke up with a good one in full steam,
just ready to cripple me …requested ice
pack (sure sign I am going down for count) and it
fizzled in about ten minutes of 2 quick
applications of ice pack and fell back asleep for
rest of night.
Day 3 – Woke up and
head was totally clear..no shadows in AM. I
HOPE and pray this works..I was getting pretty
bummed out yesterday that this whole therapy
thing was for nothing and then last night hit and
got really discouraged. But in hindsight, I guess
missing the one last night is cause for hope. up
to 4pm update very slight shadows so far.
I will update later
(hopefully updating on nothing
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Hello Ste (or whatever), I used a
low dose (1/4 of recreational users) last year
and had about what you report ,just not a big
attack). Attacks stayed away after that.
This year I started late, and the
episode had not completely shut down.
If you were in the midddle of an
episode, it might be you had less chance to kill
the demon in one go. You might want to try again
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Hi stecolor;
Thanks for posting your info. Sounds like
you are getting some relief anyway, and that's
something good. Hope it continues.
Please keep us posted on your continued
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Breaking in on the middle of a
cycle like you are, it sounds like the the
shrooms are working real well.
Don't get discouraged by an attack or two,
especially if they're short. That intense
but short attack a day or two after dosing seem
to be common experience. If you've broken the
cycle, the shadows will gradually fade.
A second dose next weekend,
and it can be smaller if you're having too much
fun, often works to put the beast away for the
rest of the cycle, though again you may get a few
shadows for a while.
Thanks for
the report. And please give us more details as
the beast fades away.
It great to
see you're (almost) pain free. This littel fungi
gave me my life back.
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Thanks to all for your support
It has been a GLORIOUS 24 hrs
since my last post.
I can not believe
it!!!!!!
Day 3 Since 4 pm. I made it thru
entire day the WHOLE DAY AND AND AND my
bewitching hour (I can set a clock by this
nightly attack) AND the ENTIRE night AND *drum
roll* NOTHING!!!! NADA!!!!,
ZILTCH!!!!.......I am so friggin happy I do not
know WHAT to do!!!! LOLOLOL!!!!!
Day 4 -
(thru 4:30 pm) VERY VERY ever so VERY SLIGHT
shadows....I can probably count them on two
hands....hardly anything..This I can deal
with...I can hardly tell them at this point!!!!!
I know it is a bit early to call
it a total break of my cycle..and celebrate...but
the break from this....the 24/7 thinking of this
beast. the mental control and fear of the
beast...the fear of night time arriving...the
absence of the surprise ones during the
day....SUCH a RELIEF!!!!
My head is still
clear.....I am sooooooo happy now!!!!
I will post updates as the days (or
mishaps (if ANY)) <-- pretty bold HUH
LOL progress....
TommyD....yeah.
a lil too much fun for sure lol..thinking about
redose this weekend to be sure...smaller dose
though for sure...any recommendations?
Best Regards, AND PFDAN TO ALL!!!!!!
And God Bless those lil fungi...
STEC
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Is this Steve that we've all been
talking to under Scott's thread lately? I'm
assuming so.
Anyway,
WOOOOOO-HOOOOOOO 
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Congratulations on your success,
and thank you for the detailed report!
Like Tommy said, be prepared to dose
again if necessary. Hopefully, you have
broken the cycle, but take it one day at a time.
Steve, you mentioned in another
post to me that you had gone through the archives
and noticed that I had a rough period awhile
back. That was when I let up on therapy a
little too early.
So I took some
time over the weekend to search through the
shroom related archives, in order to examine my
own treatment and compare it to what others have
done over the past few months. One thing
that I noticed was that everyone who was having
quicker success than I was (which was everyone
who actually stuck with it) was taking 2 grams
per dose, while I was taking 1-1.5 grams. A
point of interest for all potential shroomers as
well as myself for future reference, I believe.
When I was taking 1.5
grams, I began to have tension headaches plus
that "hangover" feeling you described on the
following day. Over the past few weeks, I
dropped down to 1 gram doses. No hangover,
no headache. I felt amazingly good.
However, by the end of the week, I could
feel it creeping up again, so it was time for
another dose.
So what I'm
wondering is what if I would have started off
taking 2 grams at a time, and then tapered down
to 1 gram? Would I have broken my cycle
already? It's impossible to tell, not
knowing the specific differences in my physiology
as compared to others who have had this success,
but it is something I will now keep in mind for
the future. My fear at the beginning was
that I might exacerbate my condition by taking
doses that were too large. Live and learn!
It is truly a great thing
to hear of your success, I'll be praying for your
continued relief.
-Rick
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Scott and Kristi, how are you?
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Glad to hear this has worked for
so many of you. How on earth do you get a
perscription?
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No prescription Maggie. We
buy them on the street, grow them ourselves or
smuggle them in.
To stop a
cluster we spit in the face of the law.
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What I neglected to mention when
I put up that post last night (I was tired) was
that I actually took 2 grams over the weekend for
my "session". Felt the hangover and a
little bit of a shadow for two days afterward,
but all is well since then.
Sorry!
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Rick, Stecolor, and all the rest
of the members of the Cult of Fungus.,
I am excited to report that as of
right now I am still pain free since the two
shadows that I had right after. I think my
wife posted the other day that I was doing well
and even had the math done for the days.
Currently, it's been 21 days since dosing,
15 days since the last CH, 13 days since the last
shadow.
I haven't wanted to
look a gift horse in the mouth so I have remained
quiet here in the beginning. I am really
waiting for the one month mark to get here before
I relax too much. I will be redosing
periodically. I will let you all know how
much and how often.
Stecolor -
man I am happy for you. I hope that
everybody can do this and get this kind of
relief.
Rick - I think that you
are on to something there about the two dose.
Maybe a person needs to at least touch the
3 level to kick the beasts ass the first time.
I know a lower dose might work. But,
I think that I will keep the tried and true
going.
I am also going to post
this under my thread so that anyone that was
following will see it.
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Bob P:
"To stop a
cluster we spit in the face of the law.
Phtoooey."
That is my
absolute, favorite, can-never-be-beat, post.
Thank You.
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Hey steColor!
How's it going? Hoping you are still very
much pain FREE!!
If you are, do
you think it is wise to redose this weekend?
Has anyone else redosed when they were
doing really well after the first dose? If
so, what were the consequences? I don't
think I have seen much information on this
particular issue.
Just thinking
out loud.....
PFDAN
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But ain't it the truth Kristi!
I'm a law abiding, 50+ y/o,
middle class, family man.
A
couple clusters ago I was neglegent and ran out
of cafergot, my only weapon at the time, on a
Saturday. I went to the pharmacy to get a
refill. The Pharmacist wouldn't refill
because "it was too soon"! I seriously
thought of jumping the counter and beating him
unconcious. Then I thought of getting a gun
and robbing him of his cafergot. I wound up
getting the on-call Dr. to phone him and order
enough to get through the weekend with a lecture
from the Dr. about taking too much cafergot and
an appointment with the neuro the following
Monday.
Shrooms - I grew my own
last year. I even had a City Attorney come
to the house investigating a police beating of
the kid accross the street (he deserved it).
The guy asked to come into the bedroom to
see the view of the incident that I had from the
window the night the kid got thumped. My
shroom grow chamber was sitting in the corner of
the room with the crop in full bloom.
Luckily, the sides of the chamber were
fogged up by the moisture and he couldn't see
what was inside. But I didn't care. I
was gonna try the shrooms no matter what.
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I take it one day at a time as
far as redosing.
When I
begin to feel the beast creeping up again, I take
that as my body's way of telling me "it's time".
Sometimes that's 6 days after the last
dose, other times it's 10.
If I had no more trouble, I wouldn't redose,
personally. I am once again going to
attempt to lay off of them for an extended period
of time. I've had to continually dose at
least once a week, but I've been pain free as a
result.
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Hi Gang !!!
Sorry for the
delay in posting, But I wanted to get to a
"milestone" and then post.
Since
my last post it has been about 72 hours and STILL
PF!!!! The shadows are getting a little heavier
though but still not bad at all. And getting the
slight feeling of the eyelid syndrome sometimes
(forget what that is called) so I think a booster
dose will be in order.
What dosage? I am
still wrestling with that one. For sure 1g plus,
I think. I do not want to risk getting into next
week and having one of these puppies nail me and
then have to deal with a mid week dose.
Plus from the mentors of
board stated, and as some of the archives
mention, this would not be a bad idea at all and
often necessary to knock me outta this cycle
totally.
So it is exactly 7 days
(tonight) from my first dose, since then I had 2
Ch's 2 days after first dose but both of them
fizzled. And since that day, nothing but shadows,
but they are now getting little heavier, so the
beast is not totally gone. But it has been a
great week not having to deal with them!!! and
the dreading of the night arriving is gone too!!
I just gotta keep this going and it appears this
therapy is the ticket to get past this.
I need to do some more research in the
archives and with the mentors about biyearly
booster shots in order to totally miss cycles.
Now would'nt THAT be WONDERFUL!!!!!
This is a much better concept
than having to worry about the meds, and the meds
to take care of the side effects of the original
meds, so on and so forth. Seems to me this is WAY
easier on the body too.
So
in closing, I wish to one and all PFDAN's !!!!!!!
and to all a good night!!!
STEC
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HEY!!!!! YIPPEE!!!
YAHOO!!!!
I am so happy for you stecolor, I
am doing backflips. Ain't it
wonderful!!!?!!!
Good luck with
the redosing - let us know how the light plate is
- and definitely hope you stay pain free!
Hugs and kisses! Kristi
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Great news, man!
It certainly does feel easier on the body,
doesn't it? And it actually works.
Notseinfeld kept up his therapy with 2
gram doses. I kept mine up with 1-1.5
grams. We began around the same time, and
he saw greater relief faster than I did.
I'd use your own judgement, monitor
yourself. There does seem to be a case for
larger initial doses in order to break a cycle.
Keep us posted, and enjoy the
relief. I'll keep praying for you.
-Rick
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The thing to remember is that 1 - 1.5 grams
may produce a "Level 2" experience for one
individual, while 2 -3 grams may just barely
produce a "Level 1" experience for someone else.
It is impossible to say how many
grams a given individual will require. There are
just too many factors involved:
1) Individual sensitivity to psilocybin
2) Potency of the particular batch of
mushrooms involved (this can vary substantially)
3) Dosing method
4) Blocking or enhancing effects of other
medications (hopefully this will be a non-issue
since it is best to follow this therapy while
free of other meds)
The key thing
is not so much how many GRAMS you eat, but how
"buzzed" you get from whatever amount you took,
be it 1 gram or 4 grams. I realize that everyone
is looking for an answer to the question, "How
much should I eat?" but there really is no answer
-- just very broad guidelines.
After your first dose, you will have a very good
idea of how many grams OF THAT PARTICULAR BATCH
of mushrooms YOU PERSONALLY will need to take to
reach the desired "Trip Level". But the next
batch you get your hands on could be twice as
strong or half as weak. This is another reason
why it makes sense to grow your own.
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True. The thing is, most people
are cautious with the first dose (as they SHOULD
be) for just the reasons I outlined above.
Someone who is exceptionally sensitive to
psilocybin who managed to obtain exceptionally
potent mushrooms would get quite a ride from a 3
gram first dose, so almost no one does that much
the first time out. Hell, even I didn't do that
much, since it had been over two decades since my
last psychedelic voyage.
But once
you have an idea of how much you will need to get
good and zonked on the particular mushrooms you
have ready to hand, the best chance of success
for those deep into a vicious cycle seems to be
to JUST GO FOR IT. Put on some Pink Floyd, plug
in the Lava Lamp, and watch the walls breathe for
a few hours.
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see so many people posting success stories...
DETAILED success stories at that. We need all the
data we can get.
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Hi All,
Sorry it has so long
since last post, but I did not want to jinx
myself !!
Dose #2 one week ago
tonight (Friday), 1.25g had level 1 experience,
very nice and easy.
The next day (Sat.) I
felt very good (no hangover feeling)
but
that night I was woken up by the beast. Although
this CH did not feel like a normal one, it stayed
at one consistant level, but I eventually went
back to sleep after taking 400mg Excedrine. This
had me concerned in that the entire last week I
had nothing but shadows but getting heavier as
the week wore on. (hence the need for dose #2) In
hindsight..it may have been the beasts last
attempt to get me....but I kicked ASS!!!
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